So…are you angry? Surprised? Sad?
A combination of all three?
I was surprised. Probably shouldn’t have been, but I was.
I think we all knew characters were going to start dying. What I didn’t expect, though, was to lose three regulars in such a short time. When Sayid went Kablooey!, I didn’t expect Sun and Jin to be right behind him.
And I’ll get to all of that, because I’m sure that’s what stuck with you most from “The Candidate,” but first, let’s recap Sideways World.
Jack Finds the Pieces
I felt like the Sideways storyline was lacking this week. There wasn’t a real punch. Maybe I was expecting the writers to take a bold step with the sideways plot, and instead it felt like they were just shuffling their feet.
Sure, Jack started realizing that everyone he’s encountering was on Flight 815 with him: John, Claire, Dr. Bernard Nadler (Rose’s husband and John Locke’s dentist). Plus, he’s already met Desmond (and Desmond, in the hospital, was looking for Charlie and he told Jack he was on Oceanic 815).
So I have to think Jack is going to start putting those pieces together (with a little help from Desmond, maybe?).

And we saw that John Locke’s dad, Anthony Cooper, is the same guy we saw in the original reality—only now, he’s a vegetable because Locke convinced him to fly with him on his first flight after receiving his pilot’s license…and he crashed. If he’s the same “Anthony Cooper” Sawyer is looking for, just like he was in the original reality, then I assume Sideways Sawyer will never get his revenge. Because what kind of satisfaction could Sawyer possibly get from that?
The only other notable event in Sideways world was Jack offering to let Claire stay with him:
Claire: Stay with you? We’re strangers.
Jack: No, we’re not strangers. We’re family.
Now on to the island…
Locke Monster and Widmore: Working Together
I said it weeks ago, then I changed my mind…and now I’m saying it again. Widmore and Locke Monster are in cahoots.
They’re working together…and pretending like they aren’t.
The goal: Confuse the candidates…and eventually get them to kill each other.
Sure, you can believe Widmore really locked them in the cages for their own good. Sawyer doesn’t believe it, and neither do I.
Locke Monster set this all up. He allowed Sawyer and friends to hijack his boat, knowing they’d run to Widmore. Widmore, though, locked them in cages. Locke Monster comes to break them out of the cages, and during this time, Widmore just so happened to be MIA.
Then Locke Monster is all like: “Hey, Widmore wanted us to blow up on this plane. It’s not safe…let’s take the sub.”
Maybe Widmore and Locke Monster aren’t working together, and Locke Monster is just manipulating Widmore’s efforts to his own advantage. But I think Widmore wants the candidates dead just as badly as Locke Monster does.
I think Widmore has his own motivations concerning the pockets of electromagnetism and one Desmond Hume, and I think Locke Monster might want to hinder those endeavors, but I think they all want the candidates to die.
Where Was Widmore?
When Locke Monster was killing all of Widmore’s men, where was the boss man? Hiding in one of the Hydra Island buildings? Or…maybe he took The Elizabeth (Desmond’s old ship, which Sawyer and friends used to commute over to Hydra Island) back to the main island. Why, you ask?
I have an idea…
Operation: Retrieve Desmond
Sayid’s last words were:
Sayid: Listen carefully. There’s a well on the main island…Desmond’s inside it. Locke wants him dead. Which means you’re going to need him, do you understand me?
Jack: Why are you telling me this?
Sayid: Because it’s going to be you, Jack!
So you can bet that Jack’s next course of action will be to fetch Desmond. Except, I have a feeling someone’s already beaten him to it.
That’s right, I think Widmore (and his sidekick Zoe) might have already retrieved Desmond. How, you ask? Well, remember when they showed Zoe and her team spying on Locke Monster’s camp during that scene when Kate and Sawyer were talking around the campfire?
If they have that capability, then don’t you think they could have used the same surveillance to watch Locke Monster throw Desmond into the well? Or to watch Sayid not kill Desmond?
I think Widmore was waiting for Locke Monster to come to Hydra Island so it would be safe for him to fetch Desmond.
Sawyer’s Plan Goes Terribly Wrong…Again
Then, he came up with the brilliant “Jack is going to push Locke into the water” plan. Which Jack carried out to perfection. The only problem, however, is that it accomplished nothing. Pushing a smoke monster into the water? Really?
And then, when Jack was right on, Sawyer didn’t listen:
Jack: Locke can’t kill us.
Hurley: Uh, what?
Jack: This is what he wanted all along. He wanted to get us here. He wanted to get us all in the same place at the same time. An enclosed space that we can’t get out of.
Jin: I don’t understand.
Jack: Locke said he can’t leave the island without us. I think he can’t leave until we’re all dead. He said he could kill any one of us whenever he wanted. So what if he hasn’t because he’s…he’s not allowed to.
What if he’s trying to get us to kill each other?
Sawyer: Stay out of my way, Doc.
Jack: If he wanted to kill us, why put a timer on it? Why not just throw it inside?
Sawyer: I don’t know.
Jack: He can’t kill us. Nothing is going to happen.
Sawyer: I’m not going to stand here and do nothing!
Jack: James, we’re going to be okay. You just have to trust me.
Sawyer: Sorry, Doc, I don’t.
I don’t necessarily blame Sawyer for not trusting Jack. After all, it was Jack’s nuclear bomb plan that led to Juliet’s death. And Sawyer wasn’t present for the dynamite scene with Richard and Jack in The Black Rock, either. So I understand why he didn’t have such blind faith in Jack.
But I’m just saying, this should be strike 3 for Sawyer, and he should be reduced to a grunt—not a general—from now on.
What I’m really afraid of is that Sawyer will wake up and realize his “pull all the wires as fast as I can” plan led to the deaths of Sayid, Sun, and Jin (and maybe Lapidus?), and after that, he’s going to turn into mopey, sorry-for-myself Sawyer again.
Either that, or he’ll start trusting Jack. I’m hoping for the latter.
Sayid’s Heroic Exit
But was it even necessary? I rewound that explosion like 3 times, and Sayid didn’t latch a door behind him or do anything to contain the blast area. He just ran away with the bomb and it blew up…killing him. But if he hadn’t taken the time to talk about Desmond, he could have run away with the bomb, thrown it to that same explosion point, and he would have had time to run back…sure it still explodes, but then they have Sayid there to help rescue Sun (and save Jin).
Just saying, if the writers wanted to make it look like this was the only option, they could have done a better job.
I liked Sayid, and I think his death showed that redemption for him was still possible. I would have liked to see him live a little longer, but if he had to go, it was a good way to do it.
Sun and Jin Die…Together
Much like Sayid, if Sun and Jin had to go, this was a good way to do it:
Sun: Jin, you have to go.
Jin: No, I can do this.
Sun: No, no you can’t. Please go.
Jin: I won’t leave you.Jin submerges again…
Jin: I’m going to get you out of here.
Sun: Please, go!
Jin: I won’t leave you.
Jin (in Korean): I will never leave you again.
Jin: I love you, Sun.
Sun: I love you.They kiss.
We see their hands holding on under water…until their hands separate.

As sad as that scene was, it was the exchange right before that one that touched me most. When Jack was trying to give Jin the last breathing tube:
Sun: Jin, go!
Jin: No!Jin to Jack: Go, I’ll get her free!
Jack: No, we can do this!
Jin: No, save Sawyer!Jack: Take this. I can get him out without it.
Jin: No, you can’t, Jack. Just go.
Jin’s words might have been, “No, you can’t, Jack. Just go.” but what he was communicating to Jack was, “I know that it’s hopeless, but I have to keep trying. There’s no point in giving me that breathing tube, and we both know it.”
Though I’ve rarely thought about it, Jack and Jin aren’t so different. They’re both strong-willed, stubborn. And once they make up their mind, it’s not going to change. And in that look between Jack and Jin, I think Jack understood perfectly. After all, in the Sideways portion of this episode, Jack admitted that he’s not good at letting go. Though it was hard for him to let Jin and Sun go, he knew Sawyer needed to be saved. And I think he understood exactly what Jin was thinking. If Jack didn’t have to save Sawyer, I don’t think Jack would have left either.
Sad stuff. But powerful.
Kate’s Not on The List
Well, it’s time for my weekly attempt to convince everyone that Kate is important after all. Basically, Sawyer thinks Kate’s expendable because he saw her name on the cave ceiling, and it was crossed out…and Widmore reinforces that belief by saying that he had a list of names and Kate wasn’t on it.
Kate tries to tell Sawyer that Widmore wasn’t going to shoot her, but Sawyer doesn’t buy it.
I think we can go two ways with this (disclaimer: both options are heavily shaded by my belief that Kate is relevant):
1) Locke Monster and Widmore know that Sawyer can be manipulated by his loyalty to Kate. So that’s why Locke Monster let Sawyer see Kate’s name crossed out on the cave wall. And it’s why they’re perpetuating the myth that Kate isn’t important. To keep Sawyer in line.
2) Maybe they genuinely believe she isn’t a candidate…but, wait for it…she still is! I like this theory, but maybe that’s just because I’ve been holding on to the belief that Kate’s important for a long time. But maybe, just maybe, it all goes back to what Kate did or didn’t do involving that explosion that killed her dad/step-dad.
I know I’m on an island here, being the only one who still cares about Kate’s character, but I still think it’s interesting that, in her flashback, Jacob said to her, “Be good, Katie.” Assuming that had significance, then maybe if she wasn’t “good,” it would disqualify her from being a candidate….and maybe that’s why Locke Monster and Widmore think her name should be crossed out… I don’t know. I’ll quit talking about Kate now, but I just hope I’m right so I can say “Ha!” (Because I’m petty like that.)
Screwball Theory I hope is Incorrect
In Sideways reality, we learn that Locke got his pilot’s license. Well, on the island, the sub blew up, but the plane is still intact. Only we don’t know if Lapidus is still living. So if they’re going to get off the island, and if Frank is dead, someone’s going to have to fly the plane.
I hope it doesn’t involve Locke’s consciousness transferring to Smoke Monster (I don’t even think this is possible, because Locke’s real body is buried on the beach) so he can fly the plane. But I do think it’s odd that we learned in Sideways world that Locke has his pilot’s license. Just seemed like a strange (and potentially relevant) inclusion.
More likely, Jack will fly the plane. Way back in “The Pilot,” he says he took flying lessons, but it “wasn’t for me.” And Jacob says Jack has something he’s supposed to do. It could be that…I don’t think so, but it could be.
Though why anyone needs to leave on the plane, I don’t know. The characters who had the best reason to leave the island (Sun and Jin) just died. Sayid was also determined to leave, and he’s dead.
Snippets
Locke: If we move right now, we can break your people out, run for the plane and be off this island before Widmore knows what happened.
Jack: They’re not my people. And I’m not leaving the island.
We hear smoke monster noises.
Hurley: And we’re dead…
Locke: You sure you won’t reconsider, Jack? Whoever told you you needed to stay had no idea what they were talking about.
Jack: John Locke told me I needed to stay.Then Jack pushes Locke Monster into the water.
Questions:
1) Any significance to the music box Christian left for Claire? Maybe a way of encouraging her to keep the baby? Any other ideas?
2) Is Lapidus dead? I’m assuming yes, but who knows?
3) If Jack’s right, and Locke Monster can’t kill them…then shouldn’t Sayid be alive? Because the bomb was created by Locke Monster, right? Or is it because Sawyer was the one who pulled the wires, which means that Sawyer was responsible, which is what made them vulnerable?
4) Sayid’s last words to Jack were: “Because it’s going to be you.” What does that mean exactly? Is it just me, or does that sound significant?
5) When Claire asked if everyone on the sub was dead, Locke Monster said, “Not all of them.” Does he know this because he knows he still isn’t free? The cork is still in place, so to speak?
6) What are the rules preventing Locke Monster from killing? He killed the Temple People. He killed Widmore’s people. But if Jack is right, he can’t kill them. But it’s not just the “candidates” he can’t kill, because he couldn’t kill Desmond either. So who can he kill and who can’t he? And why?
7) The three characters (excluding Sawyer for the moment) who seemed to be most interested in leaving the island just died in this episode. Jack already said he wasn’t leaving. But what about Kate, Hurley, and Sawyer? Will they keep trying to leave? Or did their plans just change? (I’m betting their plans changed when they learned Desmond was on the island. Sawyer might still want to leave, but as I said above, I think his decision-making rights should have been revoked a long time ago.)
8 ) I’m assuming Kate lives, even though she got shot. Is she just going to shrug it off, or will it factor into the storyline somehow? Will the island heal it? Will she need to be carried to the Temple’s Healing Spring (which, last we checked, wasn’t functioning properly)?
9) Did anyone else love the preview for next week’s episode? (It ties in very nicely with the theme for this blog, don’t you think?) If there are only “two sides, light and dark,” is it more likely, assuming Locke Monster is the dark side (Star Wars pun not intended), that Widmore is on the light side, or also on the dark side?




Tyler,
Kate is good. She usually is out to take care of some person or another whether its Sun, Claire, Jack, etc. For some reason she seems to get a bad rap for being selfish, I have never seen it that way. She seems to have a sense for what’s going to happen on the island. In this episode she seemed to know she wouldn’t be killed by Widmore. Does that make her a candidate too? When Locke shot her, he wanted to kill her but somehow the bullet just grazed her. Off island she claims she is not a killer, but is unfairly (I think) accused of murder. Remember how she wanted to make sure Ray (the guy that turned her into the marshal) would get the reward money. That just doesn’t sound like a guilty person to me. My LOST blog is tle1lost.wordpress.com .
Doug,
Welcome to the conversation! It’s great to have someone else here who doesn’t think Kate is irrelevant. You make a good point with her concern for the farmer who turned her in. It’s a good clue that the writers want us to see Kate as a “good” person. One point of clarification: Kate didn’t get shot by Locke. Kate was shot right after Jack pushed Locke into the water. The shots were fired from Widmore’s men.
I’ll check out your blog.
I liked the sideways world this week, partly because they surprised me by jumping right in to it, but mostly because they immediately started playing with “mirror” themes.
First, Jack tells John “you’re a candidate”, when we were all aware that Jack is the featured candidate in this episode on the island. Then they wove the famous phrase from John’s suicide note throughout Jack’s attempts to persuade John to have the surgery–”I wish you’d believed me”. I always liked Rose and Bernard, so was happy to see his part was more than a brief cameo. He did seem different, but, his wife is dying of cancer and his attempt to change that by taking her to a healer in Australia failed. I was not troubled that he remembered Cooper–either Cooper and or John may have been his patients for a long time, or, if he just met them post accident, that was a pretty dramatic accident and would have been memorable. I was certainly not sad to see Cooper in a vegetable state, since the Cooper we knew was a monster. Assuming this Cooper was still a monster and John had just not come to realize that before the accident, it made me start to ponder a “what if” for sideways world. If the island offers our castaways an opportunity for redemption, what if sideways world is a place where people get what they deserve–which would not always be a good thing. (Having just mentioned Rose and cancer, I am not inclined to ponder this too much! Sayid, Kate, Locke, Cooper–maybe. Jack and Claire with things going fairly well….?)
We liked the points you made about Widmore and are willing to be persuaded that he and Locke are in cahoots! I do wonder why they bothered to wire a bomb onto the plane if Locke was just going to remove it….and if the candidates can’t be killed by Locke, can they be killed by Widmore and others or just by each other?? But mostly I love that you used the word Kablooey! with an exclamation point! (my joy comes from years of being teased for my enthusiam and/or creative word choices by people who looked suspiciously like my own children)
In your Snippets you questioned why they have all interacted with Locke, knowing he is Smokie, and I have wondered the same, especially when they seem to keep believing him. I think the conversation you highlighted with Jack telling Locke Monster he believed he belonged on the island because John Locke told him so helps illustrate how weird it must be for them. They talk with someone who looks and sounds just like the John Locke they know well and to some extent trust and like, continuing to call him by that name–while knowing John is dead and this look-alike has monstrous power. A little disconcerting! Loved the shove into the water. Not sure what this was supposed to accomplish but gaining a few minutes. It seemed to be only a mild annoyance to Locke Monster, but was more annoying than bullets fired right at him!
Comments on some of your ending questions:
#1 The music box was playing “Catch a Falling Star” which seems to be Claire’s theme song, whether she knows it or not.
#4 Sayid’s “because it’s going to be you” was deliciously ambiguous! “You” being the one to get Desmond out, or “you” being THE one, our Candidate. (which Sayid would know because??? Desmond told him???
#6 Could Desmond be a candidate? Does he just have some other special “untouchable” status? Is he the new Richard for the new Jacob?
#7 I could not believe everyone is in such a hurry to leave the island they just returned too, as mainland life had not gone well for them. Yes, Sun and Jin had a reason, and Kate’s plan had been to grab Claire and return all along. Sawyer has never left so assumes life will be better elsewhere. Why does Hurley want to leave?
I still think and hope that most of them stay…
#8 Kate’s injury seemed so severe at first, and by the end she seemed stronger and the wound seemed less threatening. I think the island IS healing her, which can only mean THE ISLAND ISN’T DONE WITH HER YET! I am with you in thinking she has a more significant part still left to play. Nance, Dad and I all talked about how we liked the scene toward the end when she is so relieved to see that Jack has made it out, and really doesn’t notice Sawyer or seem concerned about him. Crisis brings clarity to her feelings, finally?! I hope so, as then they can both stay on…..but I’m fine with Sawyer staying, too!
As you mentioned, it was hard losing 3 good “friends” from the series all at once, but like Charlie, they died worthy and memorable deaths. Redemption and self-sacrifice for Sayid and True Love for Jin and Sun. (It was nice to see Sayid gradually acting more himself since his encounter with Desmond.) Also, as you mentioned, we are ready to see all our friends again who were missing from this episode!! It was incredibly moving to see Hurley mourning, and then to have Jack walk to the waters edge, also grieving. As he looked up before he started to cry, I half expected him to cry out to God, or Jacob about what is going on. But as usual, their choice for an ending was the right one!
Mama K,
Way to pick up on some things I missed. I didn’t realize the music box was playing “Catch a Falling Star.” And it didn’t occur to me that Sayid may have said “It’s going to be you” because he learned something from Desmond.
I didn’t write about it, but I also liked the “mirror” themes to which you referred. I especially liked the reiteration of the “I wish you believed me” phrase between Jack and Locke.
The mourning scenes were powerful; you’re right. I should have mentioned that. When Jack walked to the shore, at first I thought he was going to swim out there and try to save everyone.
As for why Widmore would wire a bomb in the plane if he and Locke Monster are in cahoots…I’ve thought more about this, and I don’t think they like working with each other. I just think they both want the candidates dead. Maybe Widmore wanted the plane to blow up, and Locke Monster decided to blow up Widmore’s sub instead. Or maybe the whole plan was designed, and the goal was for Locke Monster to win some trust from our Losties.
Tyler,
I like Kate too. I also think she will serve an important purpose. And whether or not she’s on the list goes back to who’s cave that was that Flocke and Sawyer visited. As I remember it, her name was not in the cave or it was crossed out like Sawyer said. But many people have wondered if that cave was actually Flocke’s and not Jacob’s after Jack and Hurley introduced us to the lighthouse, which also listed names. Some names were crossed off in the lighthouse and some were not. Austen was a name that was not crossed off. Does this mean that for some reason Flocke understood Kate wasn’t special when she’s still really on the list? I don’t know…I don’t see her taking Jacob’s place in the end, but I think there’s something there, especially since she was one of the children who was visited by Jacob.
Lindsey,
I think it’s Locke Monster’s cave. I concluded that when we saw the flashback in which Jacob gave him that white stone. I think Locke Monster kept it in his cave…until he killed Jacob.
And it just makes more sense for that to be his place, I think, since we know Jacob lived in the statue.
I agree, if someone is going to take Jacob’s place…I don’t think it will be Kate. But she’s going to do something, I think.
Apparently, Kate’s name WAS in the cave:
http://the-odi.blogspot.com/2010/05/proof-kates-name-was-crossed-off-in.html
This picture was taken on set by Jorge Garcia (Hurley). SO it was meant to be there by the producer’s. It did not make the final cut of the ep, tho.
I am guessing that Richard, Ben and Miles wired the plane to explode. Richard wanted to keep MIB on the island, so he got some C4 (they used to keep some at the Flame station, although its gone now). What is throwing us off is that MIB said Widmore set the explosive. Of course we know that MIB is a good lier.
Just a thought. I think we are all being led to believe that Jack will be the candidate to replace Jacob, so now I wonder if it will be someone else (LOST loves to trick us). Not Kate, but someone else, maybe Des or a somehow a resurrected Locke or Locke that comes “over” from the flash sideways.
Doug,
Great catch! You’re right, it definitely could have been Richard, Ben, and Miles who wired the plane to explode. Their mission was to retrieve explosives from the Dharma Barracks in order to blow up the plane. So it would make sense for them to do this…except, why would they wire it to the engine (which would obviously kill the passengers), instead of just using the explosives to blow the plane up right away?
As for the candidate to replace Jacob, I think it’s going to be Hurley. And I think most of the faithful readers of this blog agree, since there were quite a few comments about it a month or so ago.
I think Jack and Kate are important, but ultimately, Hurley should be the new Jacob. And I think they’ve shown him emerging as a leader this season to set that up.
Besides, I think Jack is going to die (just a guess), so that eliminates him as a potential Jacob replacement.
Also, I think next week’s episode might shine some light on Jacob’s role, giving us a better understanding of what it might mean to “replace” him.
Sorry, that should be liar not lier. Although Locke is usually shown “lie” ing in the coffin. Bad joke.
I am late to the party this week so some of my thoughts have been expressed. For instance, I totally assumed the explosives were the work of Ricardo’s Team Destruco. However, here’s the question: if it was them why not blow it? Why have it wired to go when it started? That’s the piece that doesn’t add up b/c they would have known that’d endanger people…
I have not been a fan of the SW storyline for the most part and of course still don’t don’t understand the context of what we’re seeing…However, I still liked this ep’s SW. In fact, it’s probably one of the three best we’ve had (Ben’s being the best). As far as punch, it “certainly” had a big one. It feels like you were judging it only in terms of plot points: who is where and who knows who, etc. But the punch here was in the emotional weight. The punch was WHY SW Locke doesn’t want to be fixed. That scene carried a lot of weight.
And now, thoughts on your thoughts:
You said: “Widmore and Locke Monster are in cahoots. They’re working together…and pretending like they aren’t.”
–I *think* I disagree with this. My gut is that Widmore is a former island leader who is still looking for the best of the island. But I agree that he very well may be getting used by MiB (like everyone) or also wanting te candidates dead for his own reasons. I rewatched last season’s “Life & Times of Jeremy Bentham.” I’d recommend watching it. Two things stuck out: (1) Christian (or the MiB in his Christian suit) is the one who told John to go to Eloise Hawking. So Eloise got involved–got the group back to the island–AT the MiB’s request. So is she involved or is she too being used? Has she been promised that she will get Daniel back if she helps? And is that what we see in the SW? That she got her payment for helping–and knows it? And if she is in cahoots, does this lend credence to your theory that her former lover, Widmore, is in cahoots with MiB. (2) When Locke tells Widmore that Richard told him he’d have to die, Widmore says, “I don’t why Richard would tell you that but I won’t let that happen.” I believe him. Remember: Richard only told Locke this because MIB posing as Locke told Richard to say that.
I don’t think Widmore has Desmond. I think Team Jack’s getting him. From a narrative perspective, they need that foothold for a place to go. They have no other “mission.” The writer planted that as a way to give them their next direction and then Des will define for them where they go next. Besides, there’s not enough time to complicate it too much. And Team Jack needs to get traction. Getting to Desmond and re-teaming with Team Destructo for the final push is a must.
Pushing a smoke monster into the water? Really?
You said: “I think Bernard seemed odd throughout his scene with Jack. Why would he remember Anthony Cooper’s name?” I agree. I think Bernard has been awaken to the Matrix. If being with your true love does the tirck, then he and Rose possibly already woke one another.
And also agreed: “John Locke told me I needed to stay” was a powerful, wonderful line.
You wrote: “Pushing a smoke monster into the water? Really?” I get what you mean, but I think there is something to this. Obviously it didn’t matter here b/c this is exactly what he wanted but there does seem to be that he has something with water. Like maybe it slows him down or doesn’t allow him to Smoki-fy. HOWEVER, I also think this could just be a lie that MiB has planted in their heads. He possibly perpetrated this myth with Sawyer that he can’t be in water to make them believe he really needed them. Again, more manipulation.
Some of your questions:
2) Is Lapidus dead? I’m assuming yes, but who knows?
Yup.
3) If Jack’s right, and Locke Monster can’t kill them…then shouldn’t Sayid be alive? Or is it because Sawyer was the one who pulled the wires, which means that Sawyer was responsible, which is what made them vulnerable?
Exactly. The bomb was on MiB’s hands…and couldn’t have killed any candidates…until Sawyer intervened and put the blood on his hands. I thought that was a master stroke but the writers. Loved it.
4) Sayid’s last words to Jack were: “Because it’s going to be you.” What does that mean exactly? Is it just me, or does that sound significant?
OH, that is very significant. Now, it may not mean what we think (that Jack’s the candidate) but it is very significant. I agree with Mama K. It could be that Des told Sayid something about the future or a task that has to be done and Sayid now realized that it was Jack that had to do that task.
5) When Claire asked if everyone on the sub was dead, Locke Monster said, “Not all of them.” Does he know this because he knows he still isn’t free? The cork is still in place, so to speak?
This is confusing. I am reading it the way you are. Unless there is a candidate not on that sub…wouldn’t that be a twist? I don’t think it’s Des…but maybe a surprise candidate?
6) What are the rules preventing Locke Monster from killing?
I have no idea. I expect some light to be shed on the rules this week.
7) What about Kate, Hurley, and Sawyer? Will they keep trying to leave? Or did their plans just change?
Everything just changed. It’s all about the mythic mission now. They are united by a big bad they have to defeat.
9) Did anyone else love the preview for next week’s episode?
YES. I think this episode is going to be huge. And I think the light and dark in this case was all about Jacob and MiB. I think their story is going to become much more clear like you said. WHOO HOO.
To end this week, let me clarify my my position on Kate. I have been outspoken in giving you a hard time about your focus on her as being important. I do think Kate has a role to play. I think she has a substantial arc and as an important part in all this. However, I don’t think she is anymore important than any other characters.They all have specific parts to play in Jacob’s big plan. She isn’t the daughter of Jacob or have a place in the backstory mythos. But she obviously is there for a reason and is “good.” She will be on the side of Jacob. I just don’t think she is the central character or plays a role bigger than Charlie or Sayid or other central characters.
Now, is she the candidate? I don’t think so, but we are all asking the exact questions we should be: Was she really scratched out as a candidate? Why isn’t she on “the list?” This has to be addressed and we might be surprised. It could be that Jacob is faking out MIB or like someone said MIB is faking out everyone.
I think the remaining players are all there for a reason and have very specific parts to play. But that might mean parts like Sayid did. I’m pretty usre more death is coming.
So, since there was so much speculation on who the candidate is, I am guessing being a candidate is not what we think. I think Jack is the candidate but I also think Jacob is coming back. So what does that mean for Jack? I don’t know
Todd,
Your thoughts are interesting, as always. I’m glad you’ve made this a place to share your views each week. This week, I think we agree on a lot of things. After reading your view on Sideways World this week, however, I think I realize why we disagree on that front. You wrote:
“it’s probably one of the three best we’ve had (Ben’s being the best). As far as punch, it “certainly” had a big one. It feels like you were judging it only in terms of plot points: who is where and who knows who, etc. But the punch here was in the emotional weight. The punch was WHY SW Locke doesn’t want to be fixed. That scene carried a lot of weight.”
You’re right, I was judging it in terms of plot points. And there’s a reason for that: I’m not really invested in the Sideways characters. I’ve only been interested in seeing how they’re going to connect to the island reality. Sure, it’s been fun to see Charlie, Daniel, Charlotte, and other deceased Losties. And it’s been fun to see Locke, Ben, Jack, Hurley, Sawyer, Miles, and others in a slightly revised role. But I only really care about these characters if their lives connect with the island reality in which we’ve invested so much time. That’s the lens through which I’ve been viewing all of this. Had I been viewing it simply as an “What if life were different for these guys?” narrative, then I could potentially be moved by Locke’s admission that he doesn’t want to be fixed.
The Sideways episode featuring Ben (“Dr. Linus”) had emotional weight, but I still think the most powerful portion of that episode was his redemption on the island, and his conversation with Ilana. Also, that episode came before Desmond concocted his plan to help the Oceanic 815 passengers “feel it.” Ever since that development, Sideways World has been building toward something. And I felt like “The Candidate” slowed down on that front, and I’m just ready to see the two worlds merge in some way (even if it’s just through the characters realizing that another world exists).
And I agree with you, from a narrative perspective, that Team Jack needs to go find Desmond. I still suspect, however, that Widmore might have beaten them to him. Because Widmore came to the island with a plan for Desmond and the electromagnetism, and I think that plan will factor in to the way the series ends (and the way the two worlds will connect). And I don’t foresee Team Jack and Team Widmore working together on that plan.
And yes, we do need to see a reunion with, as you put it, Team Destructo. I’m now thinking that if they weren’t the ones who originally wired the plane to explode, they’re going to blow it up now…removing all means of escape (except for Desmond’s sail boat).
And I like your idea that Jacob is coming back. Is it because you think the boy in the jungle IS Jacob? Hopefully we’ll get some answers on that front tomorrow. I’m looking forward to it.
“I like your idea that Jacob is coming back. Is it because you think the boy in the jungle IS Jacob?”
Well, yah. I do think the boy is Jacob but I am not sure that is why I believe Jacob is coming back. I think the child version of Jacob is haunting MiB and this is a key time in their story together. Like they met at this age or MiB did something important to Jacob when he was this age… Now, why do others see him? I know not… But why do I think Jacob is coming back. Well, it’s purely b/c I am looking for parallels to Jesus. And the ash.
Also, I think we might be closer on the SW stuff than either of us think
Like I said, I have not been a fan of this device. I think the writers made a miscalculation b/c they expect us to watch something and care for it when we have NO context of what we’re watching. So I have a hard time with caring…but while you’ve cared less about the drama in the SW since Des started his Awakening TOUR 2004, I care more because I now think it’s actually leading to something. I have started to trust more that these differences mean something. That this is not just about “fun” but has SOME weight. This has to amount to something…and so, i do care. I think.
Now, what I don’t want is for the SW to be where we end… That the island goes to hell and we’re left with the SW being what survives… “And everyone lives happily in the SW!” Because that would be cheap and lessen the deaths of loved characters like Sun, Jin and Charlie.
Tyler, I just thought of you.
New York Mag asked Darlton about criticism that the female characters aren’t as strong this season as in the past and Carlton said:
“We feel, particularly for Kate, the rest of her journey in this series is a really, really good one. She’s sort of the lead female character, so we would hope that criticism would be abated by the time the series is over.”
She certainly has a journey ahead and a role to play.